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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by RumRunner Click here to enlarge
    Wow, and at only 1 year that is bad. I actually never had the urge to use the wrap because I don't like the way it looks, but have heard of a lot of people that have because it's cheaper than changing pipes and mixtures to get rid of heat. Glad I didn't give it a try at any point.... Guess I just can't bring myself to cover up anything chrome Click here to enlarge
    Got to agree with RumRunner on this ..... just can't see covering up chrome!!!

    First thought when I saw the picks was holyshit!! Yeah I'll never do it 'cos I don't like the look but now this just reinforces that!! Glad you stuck to your guns and got them to replace them.
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    The true purpose of the wrap is the same as ceramic coating. The idea is to keep the heat in the pipe so that the exhaust velocity remains high (especially helpful in turbo applications).

    My Supertrapp has been wrapped for 3 years and many thousands of miles now and it's perfectly fine. It was ceramic coated inside and out to begin with and it's only wrapped from the heads down to the collector, in an effort to help keep some of the heat off of my leg. It works well and you'd never know that it's wrapped as I put the heat shields back on over the wrap. I suspect that the original ceramic coating has a lot to do with the longevity of the pipe. I personally would do it again in the same circumstances.
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    Thanks, Hob, I have a extra pair of pipes that has some small damage done on the end, was going to cut them, maybe an inch off, and than wrap them. Glad you posted this, now I know I won't use it, maybe just cut the pipes, sand blast and than have them flat painted.
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    The failure of the set of V & H short shot staggereds, was probably because they were wrapped over the heat shields. If I was after the wrapped style, I'd be removing the heat shields, or using pipes specifically designed for it. On the right bike, they look good, and there is a performance aspect to it too-keeping the heat in the pipe. I guess it depends if you wrapped them for looks, or performance. If it was for looks, take the heat shields off, and leave them off. If for performance, do the same-and maybe refit the heat shields over the top. Good on you for getting V & H to replace the pipes.
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    DOC i did similar with a set of Drags on a Virgao yrs before and the same/similar happened although the pipe didnt break it went very plastic Click here to enlarge
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by DOC58 Click here to enlarge
    The failure of the set of V & H short shot staggereds, was probably because they were wrapped over the heat shields. If I was after the wrapped style, I'd be removing the heat shields, or using pipes specifically designed for it. On the right bike, they look good, and there is a performance aspect to it too-keeping the heat in the pipe. I guess it depends if you wrapped them for looks, or performance. If it was for looks, take the heat shields off, and leave them off. If for performance, do the same-and maybe refit the heat shields over the top. Good on you for getting V & H to replace the pipes.
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    Doc and Rob ... I'm interested in more detail in the over heat shield under heat shield comment. I am onto my second pair of V&H RSD trackers on the sporty. The first discoloured immediately and the dealer got a replacement set straight away. The second have had the clips break and the heat is quite strong (they are basically a bare pipe with 6 inch x 2 inch of flash chrome). I was thinking, wrap them to lower heat and avoid the discoloured look (SEPST or whatever tuner well tuned and exhaust extended to clear rear suspension). Comments?
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    i thought u were suppose to wrap over the pipes . not over the shields 1st then the pipes !

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by crazyhorse223 Click here to enlarge
    i thought u were suppose to wrap over the pipes . not over the shields 1st then the pipes !
    doesnt matter if you do pipes or pipes and shields the result is very similar - the pipes still over heats and plastises and eventually delaminates and fails, on chops not ridden for far or very often or race engines its fine but on a motor that goes thru constant heat cycles and water/rain and salt the wrap just speeds up the natural degrdation of the pipe

    i have doen the wrapping both ways - i was wary of doing it over the shields after the previous attempt but figured i might get a small amoount of air flow between the shield and pipe but nope Click here to enlarge
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    Great post Rob,im sure its made a few re-think this idea as it could be costly....Click here to enlarge

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    i called v&h they said the air gap between the pipes and shields were the problem. they suggested the correct way was wrap first an then the shields , just sayin !

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